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    Reply to your information on Envoy E389

    Thanks for your information on my Envoy E389 indicating it was sent to Sussex Police. I have made some enquiries and found out the following which may be of interest to you.

    Sussex Police purchased 12 Envoys in the early seventies as "sniper rifles"and the force armourer fitted them with Parker Hale mounts and pecar scopes.
    They later purchased 10 Enforcers making 22 "sniper rifles" in all.
    The converted Envoy rifles were numbers E36, E45, E74, E114, E232, E256,
    E260, E320, E348, E386, E389, E505.

    The Enforcers numbers were 59, 188, 232, 361, 408, 453, 473, 482, 483, 494.

    18 rifles were sold with their scopes to a local RFD in 1986. However Enforcers 453, 482, 483, 494 were sold to the City of London Police to be used by them as "sniper rifles" so these 4 rifles saw service with Sussex and City Police.

    Can you give me any information on another of my Envoys E290 and my L42
    (XL42E1) number E35634. (no its not for sale at any price)
    Thank you.
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    L42A1's

    Simon,
    Could you provide info on the following:

    L42A1
    Serial No. V38870

    L42A1
    Serial No. N33996

    L42A1
    Serial No. L32563


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    John

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    Rifle V38870 was part of batch number 47 which consisted of 43 rifles. Records show a conversion date of 22nd December 1971, on completion the rifle was despatched to store at Donnington.

    Rifle N33996 was part of batch number 51 which consisted of 20 rifles. Records show a conversion date of 8th February 1972, on completion the rifle was despatched to store at Donnington.

    Rifle L32563, Can you double check the serial number please? I can find rifle L32565 converted in 1971 and L32568 converted in 1972. So I'm wondering if there's a typo in the records?

    Quote Originally Posted by jlk47 View Post
    Simon,
    Could you provide info on the following:

    L42A1
    Serial No. V38870

    L42A1
    Serial No. N33996

    L42A1
    Serial No. L32563


    Thanks,

    John

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    I had misread the serial # it is: L32568, Lot of Suncorite on this rifle.

    Thanks Again,

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    Rifle L32568 was part ofr batch number 51 which consisted of 20 rifles. Records show a conversion date of 8th Feb 1972 whereupon it was shipped to store at Donnington.

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    I had misread the serial # it is: L32568, Lot of Suncorite on this rifle.

    Thanks Again,

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    Envoy E290 is recorded as having been shipped out to Parker, Birmingham on the 06th Nov 1970.

    Rifle number E35634 is not recorded in the conversion records, however as the rifle is an XL that doesn't surprise me, there is also an XL in the Pattern Rooms which is absent from the conversion list.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Jones View Post
    Thanks for your information on my Envoy E389 indicating it was sent to Sussex Police. I have made some enquiries and found out the following which may be of interest to you.

    Sussex Police purchased 12 Envoys in the early seventies as "sniper rifles"and the force armourer fitted them with Parker Hale mounts and pecar scopes.
    They later purchased 10 Enforcers making 22 "sniper rifles" in all.
    The converted Envoy rifles were numbers E36, E45, E74, E114, E232, E256,
    E260, E320, E348, E386, E389, E505.

    The Enforcers numbers were 59, 188, 232, 361, 408, 453, 473, 482, 483, 494.

    18 rifles were sold with their scopes to a local RFD in 1986. However Enforcers 453, 482, 483, 494 were sold to the City of London Police to be used by them as "sniper rifles" so these 4 rifles saw service with Sussex and City Police.

    Can you give me any information on another of my Envoys E290 and my L42
    (XL42E1) number E35634. (no its not for sale at any price)
    Thank you.

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