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    Thanks for the information. That really bums me that they were telling us that there is a coiled steel wire inside the grenades when there isn't. Another myth killed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by earlwb View Post
    That really bums me that they were telling us that there is a coiled steel wire inside
    On the side of the people that wrote the books that we had to teach out of, I'm sure that's what they were told or told to teach. Perhaps there's no other way for the manufacturer to describe it...but we sure found a way. Grenades like the one Darren has and loose shrapnel would be collected and run through the ammo wing to be declared safe so we could put it into the training system. I still have pieces...and other stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    What I always found interesting Darren is that although we were committed to teach the troops the M67 has a coiled, segmented wire inside...you can clearly see it's not. It's a stippled solid steel casing.
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    On the side of the people that wrote the books that we had to teach out of, I'm sure that's what they were told or told to teach. Perhaps there's no other way for the manufacturer to describe it...but we sure found a way. Grenades like the one Darren has and loose shrapnel would be collected and run through the ammo wing to be declared safe so we could put it into the training system.

    I would have to go back and look but the "coiled wire" probably still on the books, or at least added to lectures as repeated oral history. I know even military fiction sometimes references "wire" fragments from a grenade.

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    This older M26 "Lemon" grenade might be the source of the wire wrapped myth. They were adopted in the 1950's but I have never used one, they have been replaced in CDN service by the C13 (M67) entirely.


    I do have a 40mm HELV (M203) cutaway, I should share a photo of it, the fragmentation material in that is about the size of #7 Birdshot, which we know is not a terribly fatal projectile on humans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentryduty View Post
    This older M26 "Lemon" grenade might be the source of the wire wrapped myth. They were adopted in the 1950's but I have never used one, they have been replaced in CDN service by the C13 (M67) entirely.
    That's probably it. Things tend to not go away once they start. We didn't have those...we did have M61s though. I used those.

    I also have a couple of M36s.
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    That's a nice showing, I only have the training cutaway which I showcased in another thread earlier this year.

    https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=55053

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