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Originally Posted by
Aragorn243
And finally, the 1pdr shell, first one with a screw on tip that I have.
Here's the one I have that compares, my others don't. Mine has a hole for tracer element though and a much larger explosive compartment.
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Originally Posted by
Aragorn243
identifying the oiler. It's
Russian
, pretty sure about that but what era remains unknown.
I've seen some people "claim" these types of "Russian brass oiler" to be pre revolution possibly partly because they don't have a star on them. I'm not sure that anyone has managed to provide any proof that they are pre revolution or maybe they have and I haven't seen it?
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Originally Posted by
browningautorifle
explosive compartment.
Jim, how would this type of shell be detonated with what appears to be a solid steel, screw-on tip, please? Would this tip have been replaced with a different one before firing? Thanks
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I've seen some call the oilers Russian
, possibly Soviet so they are assuming the same thing. I don't think any of my Soviet oilers have stars on them. My books weren't real helpful Early ones were square, WWII were round but not THIS type. This one seems to have fallen through the cracks.
I was wondering the same thing about the explosive mechanism. I'm always a bit leery about unscrewing shell parts so haven't done more than tried loosening it by hand. Too tight for that.
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Originally Posted by
Flying10uk
how would this type of shell be detonated with what appears to be a solid steel, screw-on tip,
Usually a base fuse but in this case no room for one. I'd think this would have a nose fuse replaced before firing or it becomes a penetrating projectile. Remember the armor of then wasn't much, more like boiler plate.

Originally Posted by
Aragorn243
I'm always a bit leery about unscrewing shell parts
You sort of need to, nothing worse than having a live piece around. I have a 57mm Russian
here that had a live primer for decades in possession of an acquaintance. I looked at it as soon as I got it and realized what was up so I set it off. Now it's safe... Your tip will unscrew, you may need to make a wrench though.
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Originally Posted by
Aragorn243
I'm always a bit leery about unscrewing shell parts so haven't done more than tried loosening it by hand.
The largest ever explosion in the UK
, according to some, allegedly, was caused by someone attempting to remove a bomb fuse with "the aid of a hammer and chisel". What is known for sure is that there is now an enormous hole in the ground.
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Originally Posted by
Aragorn243
I've seen some call the oilers
Russian
, possibly Soviet so they are assuming the same thing. I don't think any of my Soviet oilers have stars on them. My books weren't real helpful Early ones were square, WWII were round but not THIS type. This one seems to have fallen through the cracks.
I believe that I've seen some people call them "Finish oilers" as well. Finland
probably used them like they used a lot of Russian kit but what evidence there is that they may of made them I don't know.
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Originally Posted by
Flying10uk
The largest ever explosion in the
UK
Well, you folk certainly had(have) some large stuff acquiescing. No surprise there.
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The Finns marked everything they used SA so this isn't Finn used. Some may have been if these are early. The Finns inherited all this stuff as they were part of Russia
up till the revolution.
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Originally Posted by
Aragorn243
as they were part of
Russia
up till the revolution.
Yes, I am aware of that.
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