any insight on powder shortage?

[Calif-Steve]

Guys! Hoarding drives up the prices for no good reason. Buying what you don't need hurts all of us. I am used to paying $24.95 for 1k of primers. They now sell for $40.00-80.00. ONLY because of hoarding. Please yourself, for sure, but don't expect a Bronze Star from me!

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[Matt Anthony]

Guys! Hoarding drives up the prices for no good reason. Buying what you don't need hurts all of us. I am used to paying $24.95 for 1k of primers. They now sell for $40.00-80.00. ONLY because of hoarding. Please yourself, for sure, but don't expect a Bronze Star from me!

Through Widener's, six cases of Wolf primers, Hazmat and shipping just last week, cost me $916.65. Cost per 1000 is $30.56. A year ago from Wideners I paid $691.50 for the same order. Everyone I know is buying components, and it's not about hoarders, it's about OBAMA and his band of thieves. Check out HR-45 and how they are trying to put that on the back of an IRS bill. When you start reading what they want, you'd change your tune on others buying what they believe they need to protect themselves.
Also, I can't see your logic in your attack against those that buy for their own stock! No one is stopping you from buying whatever you want, why are you judging others as if they are doing something wrong?

[colt100]

Guys! Hoarding drives up the prices for no good reason. Buying what you don't need hurts all of us. I am used to paying $24.95 for 1k of primers. They now sell for $40.00-80.00. ONLY because of hoarding. Please yourself, for sure, but don't expect a Bronze Star from me!

Comrade Steve:

Primers are only being sold at that price because of supply and demand. There was a great demand because alot of uninformed people (and I'm sure some gun owners) voted for the current anti-gun president. As companies sold out of their stocks and manufacturing wasn't able to keep up with demand, people who had the items put some up for sale. I know I have been selling some of my ammo that I refuse to shoot because of the price to replace it. I now shoot my reloads.

If someone needed your primers really bad and offered you 20 times what you paid for them, would you sell? Are you now gougeing them? Did you hord primers/ammo? I'll bet you are not out of ammo so I guess you are hording ammo by not allowing others to buy what you have.

You fail to take into account that the dollar is losing value, hence, prices go higher. It is also my understanding that bullet/primer companies, lock in prices on commodities for periods of time. If they locked in when the price of the metal was high, then well, the consumer is going to pay the price, if they want the goods.

If you think that everyone should just stop shooting/buying components, so the price will go down so you can buy them, you are not living in reality. I guess you were big into the no buying gas days also huh?

If you want prices to go down, buy less of the things you think are too high priced. I normally buy several thousand primers in a order because it is cheaper to do so, and I'll know I have enough to get me though in times like these.

Supply is catching up to demand and the price of primers hasn't risen that much. There was just reciently, a bunch of wolf primers in stock for several days. At some point, in the near future, the people who have been "hording" all these components will have their fill and stop buying components. Then there will be all you need out there. Maybe when that happens, you might want to stock up when things cost less and are available.

I have no ill will towards anyone who buys enough of what they need when it is available. I don't blame anyone for buying an item for the express purpose of turning a profit (CMP items are the only exception but that is a whole other issue). I refuse to pay 40-80 dollars for primers and will wait until prices come down. I stocked up on enough reloading components when they were cheap to last me for the forseeable future.

For anyone out there who is pointing fingers about hording, what is the acceptable level of buying? 100 primers? 100 rds of ammo? What?

Do you have any problems with people buying 30000 primers if primers were 20/1000 and in stock everywhere? If your answer to this question is you don't have a problem when supplies are plentiful and cheap, then I fail to see your logic when supplies are in short supply. If your answer is it was still hording, explain why you weren't complaining 2 years ago?

If you take anything from this experience, remember, "buy it cheap and stack it deep."