I ran into a old timer selling the two worst Garands ever in a gun show parking lot headed back to his car.No sale at $750 each. I got the story about how they were his sisters late husbands and he had priced everything in a book and nothing was selling. We went to house the next day to see the other stuff and he brought out the S'G' in the picture.It was my 4th Carbine but I had no idea what I had bought. After someone explained it to me and gave me some books to read I was hooked. Now carbines will probally be the death of me.