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    Old cartridges with paper bullets

    My brother knows I have some US milsurp rifles, and he also likes flea markets and gun shows. He bought for me a few rounds of vintage cartridges with paper bullets. I vaguely recall reading how these types of rounds were made for training in indoor ranges back in the day but dont know much more than that.

    Both he and I figured they were .30-06 rounds (on a clip for a M1903), but after considering the apparent date on the headstamp (FA 5 05) maybe not? Thoughts anyone on what I have?

    And thoughts on how to get them into the hands of someone who might be interested in this sort of history?
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    Those are 30-03 gallery rounds made by Franklin Arsenal May 1905.
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    Some wooden Bren Gun 303 rounds I have used for training they had a splitter on the front of the gun to destroy the wooden projectile I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CINDERS View Post
    Some wooden Bren Gun 303 rounds I have used for training they had a splitter on the front of the gun to destroy the wooden projectile I believe.
    That's absolutely correct Cinders. Apparently even a wooden bullet carried sufficient energy far enough to be dangerous to friendly troops or at least hurt like Heck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy-R View Post
    And thoughts on how to get them into the hands of someone who might be interested in this sort of history?
    Put them up in the WTS section of the forum and someone will contact you. If I was in USAicon, I'd love to grab them. Can't though...
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    The cartridges in the pix appear to me an earlier model of the M1906 blank shown below. They are not gallery practice rounds. The powder-filled paper bullet is designed to disintegrate on muzzle-exit. I suspect they would be exciting among cartridge collectors due to short production life.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Parashooter View Post
    I suspect they would be exciting among cartridge collectors
    I'd grab one at least if it were possible. The clips of five would be desirable, probably expensive.
    Regards, Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    I'd grab one at least if it were possible. The clips of five would be desirable, probably expensive.
    Thanks for the all comments folks.
    For awareness one of our fellow milsurps members reached out and the 8 rounds are now in his hands for a nominal price…..to go with his M1903 that is still apparently chambered in the original .30-03
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy-R View Post
    to go with his M1903
    Perfect place.
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