Real S'G' Safety ??

[Bruce McAskill]

Look at the non recessed or crimped pin. The stake marks are, well not up to par shall we say. And yes the base is not right too. And the barrel band as described already just shouts out it's a SETH!!!!!!

[painter777]

So $1600 plus $40 shipping plus my FFL's transfer fee of $40...... total of $1680 for the wrong barrel, repro commercial type II ish barrel band, repro safety and fake rear sight.
Along with some unknown internals.
$1680 for a shooter...... if the barrel is ok.
But a nice stock.

All described by the seller as original except the barrel band.

Be sure to follow the new topic I posted where I'm looking for a born on date of a SG.
I'll add more to it.... hopefully tomorrow.
It has something I've never seen before.

Thx All and Bruce

[jimb16]

I'd guess the crate is from the early 50s. Most WWII stuff was shipped in boxes not strippers.

[kro]

Just looking at this thread and the OP's picture of the S'G' safety that was said to be a reproduction. I thought it looked real. Does anyone have a picture of a known real E-S'G' safety?

[painter777]

Hello Kro,
I believe USGIBob has a picture, stay tuned... he'll find this.

Later...

[USGI]

Just looking at this thread and the OP's picture of the S'G' safety that was said to be a reproduction. I thought it looked real. Does anyone have a picture of a known real E-S'G' safety?

Mine's unmarked, so don't know who made it. See post #4 in this thread, first two pictures. The one on the far right is Charlie's. - Bob

[painter777]

The Square S rear sight is USGI but I don't recall ever seeing one on a S'G' , you would be more likely to see a W-S'G' , B-SG or RG-SG at this serial number range .

Now that Kro has asked about this carbines Safety markings, I've started looking it over again....... But looking the Rear sight over again.

As Rcycles45 stated above.... You didn't see S'G' carbines with a Sq S marked flip sight.... Which this one is clearly wearing.
But now that I look at the Right side base I can see a Round S below the pin.
When picture is blown up I believe I can see a letter in front of the S ...... Maybe a B or R ?
Can't see anything after the Possible B or R except the S.

Square S picture here:


Possible B or R and Round S Pictured here:


If you go to this link and are signed in look at picture #11, by Hovering over it you'll get a magnified view of the rear sights right side.
To see it you'll have to look at it magnified.
Can anyone else see the Round S under the pin? And a Possible B or R in front of it?

https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/786945629

[USGI]

Pretty sure I see the S, but can't really say about anything else. - Bob

[rcycles45]

Just looking at this thread and the OP's picture of the S'G' safety that was said to be a reproduction. I thought it looked real. Does anyone have a picture of a known real E-S'G' safety?

Kro may be onto something . I dug around and found 2 of these safeties that I would post but cant do it . If someone can post I could email of text pictures to you . I think I was confusing the prime marks on the flip sight with the prime marks on the safety , prime marks on flip sights are straight verticle and on the E-S'G' safeties they are slanted to the right . So this safety looks legit after looking at the examples I have . ..

[Bruce McAskill]

I can see the normal S Charlie and that just adds to the fact the rear sight is a reproduction and who ever paid $1600 for it will one day find it isn't worth but half what they paid for it. In fact the staking for the rear sight is not right on the rear staking. The safety does appear to be a reproduction. The spacing is wrong I think for the letters and size.