Old CSP Site Reopens

[painter777]

Milsurps threw a rope before the CSP was about to fall into a black hole of Cyber darkness.
Remember how most every board was taken over by the Spammers.
Remember the count less E-mails with concerns and even offers to help that were never returned?
Remember the creeping slow speed of the Forums?
Remember the users that were using 6 different names just to disrupt the Forums?
People tend to forget to fast.
This site didn't just step up to the plate, but brought the ball and bat plus offered to carry the CSP until the Culvers could get back up and on their own.
It was the instant action on the part of Milsurps, grabbing what history that could be salvaged from the old CSP site before it vanished.
Does anyone remember that?
A original agreement meant to last a couple months at best.
Mind you with no monetary interest for the Milsurps team. But just the opposite with great out of pocket costs along with the added effort and labor to try to run someone else's site to their liking. The headaches that came with it were free.
It was a no win situation from the start. But Milsurps stuck it out.
We were greeted here with a friendly invitation to enjoy the new site.
Pull up a chair, put your feet up and get comfortable.
That's hard to find in this day and age.
Even set up what I called the Culver Relief Fund.
This is a 24-7-365 day active forum, that needs to be maintained, funded, moderated...etc not something you can handle part time and pop in every other month to just say HI Guys !!
New and Old Member's considerations are being taken into account. Decisions had to be made. Previous obligations to advertisers had to be met.
Not to mention keeping up with the interests of the 'ORIGINAL MILSURPS MEMBERS'
These guys opened their door and invited us in with a warm welcome.
Remember when you first checked in...you had a 'WELCOME Jouster MEMBERS' banner. We were guests.....we can now be Members !
With what I assume was limited guidance or input from the Culvers, Milsurps was forced to make some decisions. These decisions were made from the moderators acting as a team with the sites and our interests in mind. What more could you ask? I'm sure some were tough, but had to be done. I'm sure some were legal issues that can't be put on hold.
Granted Gloria had some requests. Most like shutting down the Glock Forum were respected, but many weren't feasible.
Remember the interest expressed by Gloria to charge a fee for using any of the CSP Forums?
Take the time to read back through the announcement pages. I think if you can read between the lines you'll see that the Milsurps Team had our back the whole time.
We as new members on this site were kept informed of updates, proposals and decisions.
Read the following link;
Military Surplus Collectors Forums - Announcements in Forum : Jouster's CSP Forums

I wish the Culvers a long and happy life. Best of luck on the new Jouster.
But I don't plan to turn my back on a group of the guys who have watched our backs for months now. Not after seeing the respect they've shown the Culvers and ourselves.
There are plenty of Political Forums out there.
We here are collectors of Militaria. We have the opportunity to do that here in a friendly enviroment. What more could we ask for?

My deepest Regards To The Milsurps Team.
Your efforts are greatly appreciated.

Respectfully
Charlie Holland
Painter777

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[Mike Haas]

Milsurps threw a rope before the CSP was about to fall into a black hole of Cyber darkness.
Remember how most every board was taken over by the Spammers.
Remember the count less E-mails with concerns and even offers to help that were never returned?
Remember the creeping slow speed of the Forums?
Remember the users that were using 6 different names just to disrupt the Forums?
People tend to forget to fast.
This site didn't just step up to the plate, but brought the ball and bat plus offered to carry the CSP until the Culvers could get back up and on their own.
It was the instant action on the part of Milsurps, grabbing what history that could be salvaged from the old CSP site before it vanished.
Does anyone remember that?
A original agreement meant to last a couple months at best.
Mind you with no monetary interest for the Milsurps team. But just the opposite with great out of pocket costs along with the added effort and labor to try to run someone else's site to their liking. The headaches that came with it were free.
It was a no win situation from the start. But Milsurps stuck it out.
We were greeted here with a friendly invitation to enjoy the new site.
Pull up a chair, put your feet up and get comfortable.
That's hard to find in this day and age.
Even set up what I called the Culver Relief Fund.
This is a 24-7-365 day active forum, that needs to be maintained, funded, moderated...etc not something you can handle part time and pop in every other month to just say HI Guys !!
New and Old Member's considerations are being taken into account. Decisions had to be made. Previous obligations to advertisers had to be met.
Not to mention keeping up with the interests of the 'ORIGINAL MILSURPS MEMBERS'
These guys opened their door and invited us in with a warm welcome.
Remember when you first checked in...you had a 'WELCOME Jouster MEMBERS' banner. We were guests.....we can now be Members !
With what I assume was limited guidance or input from the Culvers, Milsurps was forced to make some decisions. These decisions were made from the moderators acting as a team with the sites and our interests in mind. What more could you ask? I'm sure some were tough, but had to be done. I'm sure some were legal issues that can't be put on hold.
Granted Gloria had some requests. Most like shutting down the Glock Forum were respected, but many weren't feasible.
Remember the interest expressed by Gloria to charge a fee for using any of the CSP Forums?
Take the time to read back through the announcement pages. I think if you can read between the lines you'll see that the Milsurps Team had our back the whole time.
We as new members on this site were kept informed of updates, proposals and decisions.
Read the following link;
Military Surplus Collectors Forums - Announcements in Forum : Jouster's CSP Forums

I wish the Culvers a long and happy life. Best of luck on the new Jouster.
But I don't plan to turn my back on a group of the guys who have watched our backs for months now. Not after seeing the respect they've shown the Culvers and ourselves.
There are plenty of Political Forums out there.
We here are collectors of Militaria. We have the opportunity to do that here in a friendly enviroment. What more could we ask for?

My deepest Regards To The Milsurps Team.
Your efforts are greatly appreciated.

Respectfully
Charlie Holland
Painter777

Charlie!! - Absolutely spot on, well written post!!
Just since yesterday a CSP poster (Larry McLarety) has called the moderators onl this forum (RTL-Bill - etal) "pukes" and wannabe "big cheese's".

I to contributed to the CSP Fund and I'm not to happy about some of stuff I've reading the recent turn of events.
I've signed back onto CSP but I'm not sure I'm gonna stay there. I am absolutely sure I'm gonna stay with MILSURPS and if a moderator spanks me for an in appropriate post I'll accept it!

[JGaynor]

The owners of the CSP site could have reopened their site without all the ugly invective that has appeared in the last few days.



Jim

[Mike Haas]

The owners of the CSP site could have reopened their site without all the ugly invective that has appeared in the last few days.



Jim

Frankly I don't need to visit an establishment wherein the managment can't or won't make it a civil place to visit.

If CSP will tolerate folks like RTL and Bill Hollinger (etal) being called "pukes" and let the post stand, I will simply change the channel and not view it again.

I'm now truely sorry I contributed to the CSP Relief Fund. Hopefully my contribution helped Dick & Gloria on a personal level. I do wish it had been better used in the managment of the CSP Forum.

I'm gonna "un-subscribe" from CSP and remain here as a member. Perhaps any minor imput I contribute, and perhaps financial help will be better appreciated.

Mike Haas

[FW!]

It seems most of the slamming is on the 2nd Ammendment site. I quit going there a long time ago. I thank you for welcoming me to your site & will continue to visit. As primarily a rimfire shooter I spend most of my time in RFC but visit other sites for info. I will continue here as I do have some milsurp rifles