Another fake No32 spotted......

[Roger Payne]

Some forummers may recall that 6 months ago I reported a fake No32 scope spotted at a large Belgian arms fair. Just got back from there again this evening & not only saw the same scope on the same (fake) rifle, but also saw another one, complete with its bracket & tin with adjusting tool. Everything was repro but quite well done. The tin was the round ended type & was engraved BE 1944. The bracket was a repro & I'm not sure if it was from another new source of copies or whether it was a 'roughed up' Sarco type. The scope was marked up No32 Mk 3 AK&S & was serialled 1704X. Although both scopes were engraved as Mk3's they had Mk2 drum assemblies fitted (the one on the faked up rifles was spuriously dated 1943 & serialled 33XXX). I tried the adjustments & the clicks were sloppy. Optics were reasonably good. Edges were too sharp & everything generally looked too new (which it is). I asked the French speaking stall-holder (he may have been French or Belgian) where the scopes were made & he smiled, looked rather awkward & said he presumed in the UK. I said I thought not & how about China? He looked a lot more awkward & rushed over to his pal muttering & mumbling. They didn't look exactly ecstatic with me, so I asked no more questions & moved along. At the risk of repeating myself; beware, as it's only a matter of time till they start turning up on the on-line auction sites, & they do look superficially correct.
Caveat Emptor.

ATB

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[limpetmine]

Too bad. If they would be up front about it, label them as repros, they could sell thousands of them, not the dozens.

[Brian Dick]

What was the price on the one in the can with the tool Rog?

[Valleysniper]

Brian

If you had been the only bidder, you could have had scope, bracket, tin and key for US $1200 here:

Enfield Rifle SCOPE WITH CAN AND ADJUSTING TOOL. - eBay (item 260577554166 end time Mar-29-10 21:26:39 PDT)

If the link doesn't work it was item No 260577554166.

Hope they didn't start at 17000 serial No range as I have an early A.K. & S MK 111 one in this range.

[Roger Payne]

Brian,
the one in the tin was 950 euros. For that you got the scope, bracket, scope tool & tin. To my mind it's cheap (by current standards) for an original, but rather too dear for my liking for a phoney.

Just about to wrap your poster of Vimy. Sorry, sloths are speedy compared to me.....!

ATB

[Roger Payne]

Valley Sniper, I think you've been inside enough real No32's to spot these a mile off!
ATB

[Roger Payne]

Well spotted Hugh. That is indeed one of them. One of the two I saw was very close to that serial number indeed. It has started..........Beware!

ATB

[read6737]

Is it worth sending the seller a message to say we know it is a fake?
or something to get some info out of him?

[RJW NZ]

Thanks for this thread, Roger, I'm making a link to this on enfieldresource, so that should spread the word a bit.

[MJ1]

That is Northridge and they are Indian merchants I think. I saw them at the Cow Palace a few years ago floging Indian SLR parts kits in the worst condition that could still be called useful. So this could be Mrs. Petals boys cranking out copies.

..MJ..